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MIO setup sharing [message #85863] Sun, 13 October 2013 11:52 Go to next message
Arne is currently offline  Arne
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Hi everybody. I own two ULN-8, attached to two separated Macs. I would like to use .cnsl files
of the settings I make on the box A with the box B.
The problem is: when loaded with box B, the .cnsl file created with box A shows only channels mapped over an "OFFLINE" box A.
I thought I could be able to do the same remapping that occurs when I load a template (remember the "remapping" window that
opens every time you load a template?), but I didn't find a way to do it. Any idea? Thanks in advance for your answers.
Arne
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #85911 is a reply to message #85863] Fri, 08 November 2013 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Torsten Lang
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yes, that would be of much use!
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86009 is a reply to message #85911] Sat, 01 February 2014 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jpetrisko is currently offline  jpetrisko
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Save your settings into a google drive folder that's accessible from both computers. As long as you save your console to that folder, it will automatically appear on the other computer as well.
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86010 is a reply to message #85863] Sun, 02 February 2014 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Torsten Lang
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But how does that solve the Problem, that the different Units have different serial numbers and so the Settings aren't directly usable with the other unit.
The channels in the mixer are assigned to the specific unit.
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86011 is a reply to message #86010] Sun, 02 February 2014 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So much for that theory ... I thought you'd get the the remap dialog every time you load up a the console from the sync'd folder.
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86012 is a reply to message #85863] Sun, 02 February 2014 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Torsten Lang
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I never heard of or saw a remap dialog..
Only the use box state / use console state, but I guess that's not what you mean, or?

Or is that something ULN specific? (I only have two 2882s)
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86013 is a reply to message #86012] Sun, 02 February 2014 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Arne is currently offline  Arne
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Well, when I load a template from the factory collection (MIO Console->file->open template), I always get
a dialog saying: "One or more of the Hardware units in the recalled state do not match your current hardware configuration.
Use the popup menus below to establish a mapping from the hardware units in the recalled state to the units available in your system".
So, I was simply asking if there was a way to import and remap a .cnsl file created by a friend of mine with his own box (ULN-8, perfectly identical to my box).
Until now, I haven't find a way to do it, and this prevents the free exchange of presets between legit owners of MH boxes.
It's a real pity.
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86014 is a reply to message #86013] Sun, 02 February 2014 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can always map the setting from one box to another -- this is not prevented in any way.

That being said, there is a complication -- if the Console file has data for a box, then that data will be used for the box and it will not participate in remapping.

If the console file does not have data for a specific box then one of two things will happen:

If there is data for one box in the file and there is one piece of MIO hardware connected to your computer, MIO Console will automatically map the data from the file to the hardware.

If there is data for more than one box in the file, or if there is more than one piece of MIO hardware connected to your computer, then you will get the box remapping dialog, so you can control which data gets mapped to which box.

If the console file contains data for the box that is attached to your computer, then that data will automatically be mapped to your box, and you won't have the opportunity to map any other box data to your hardware.

So, if you are sharing with your friend (or just have multiple boxes that you use at different times), you must ensure that your box is not included in the file that your friend is using.

For example, if your box is #100, and your friend's box is #200, and your friend sends you a file with just #200 in it, and you open the file with your box attached to the computer, then the #200 data will automatically be mapped to your box #100.

If, on the other hand, you open the file without your box attached, you will get a console with an offline tab for #200. When you attach your box, you will get an additional tab for #100, and the #200 box will remain offline.

If the console file has data for box #100 and box #200, your box (#100) will always get the data for box #100, and the #200 will show up as an offline box.

So, if you are not getting the mapping dialog, or if (in the case of one box attached to your machine) the data is not auto mapped, follow the following steps:

1 ) Disconnect all the boxes from your computer
2 ) Open the file
3 ) Make sure the file just has data for your friend's box.
- In particular, make sure there is no offline tab for your box
4 ) If there is data for any other box than the one(s) you want to map from, use the "forget offline box and remove from mixer" menu command from the popup menu for the tabs corresponding to the box(es) that are in the file, but don't have data that you want.
5 ) Save this file (perhaps with a different name)
6 ) QUIT THE CONSOLE
7 ) Attach your box to the computer
8 ) Drag the file you saved to the MIO Console Icon.

After this, the data will either be auto mapped, or you will get the mapping dialog so that you can do the mapping (depending on how many boxes are in the file and how many are attached to the computer).

You can share between people with different boxes without having to go through all that as long as you ensure that there are no offline tabs in MIO Console when you save the file.

As long as your file only has your box(es) and your friend's file only has their boxes, you will always be able to map, as long your boxes are online when you open the file and there are no offline tabs in your console. If you allow offline tabs to hang around then they can keep you from being able to map.

I know that this is a bit more complex than folks would like; we will be able to simplify it in the future. But if you follow the instructions above, you will always be able to map from one box to another.

Best regards,

B.J. Buchalter
Metric Halo

[Updated on: Sun, 02 February 2014 21:14]

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Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86015 is a reply to message #86014] Sun, 02 February 2014 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also -- sorry for the late reply to this initial thread -- I just saw it due to the updated activity...
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86016 is a reply to message #86015] Mon, 03 February 2014 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks a lot for your solution!
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86017 is a reply to message #85863] Wed, 05 February 2014 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Arne is currently offline  Arne
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Thank you B.J. !
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86019 is a reply to message #86017] Mon, 10 February 2014 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Arne is currently offline  Arne
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...anyway the solution given by BJ doesn't work. Today I tried to remap several .cnsl files following BJ' procedure, but always without success...
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86020 is a reply to message #86019] Mon, 10 February 2014 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please open a ticket with support

https://mhsecure.com/support

so that our support folks can help you work through this, or if we can't help you to get this to work, document what the problem is so that we can fix it.

The process I documented does work for me here, but that being said, it is sensitive to doing everything right, so it is possible that you did one of the steps slightly differently and that caused problems.

But the best way to determine what is going on is to work with support -- we can post the results here once we figure out what is going on.

Best regards,

B.J. Buchalter
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86021 is a reply to message #86020] Tue, 11 February 2014 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you B.J, I opened the ticket.
Re: MIO setup sharing [message #86022 is a reply to message #86021] Thu, 13 February 2014 14:05 Go to previous message
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The Metric Halo support - the best on earth, in case someone didn't know - at least solved my issue. In a nutshell, B.J.'s procedure was essentially correct, but it is mandatory to leave the MIO console running while dragging the .cnsl file on the console's icon. Do not close the console, and everything will go fine. Thank you again, B.J. and Jon Stern.
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