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USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87846] Sat, 02 January 2021 20:43 Go to next message
nozzles is currently offline  nozzles
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I have 2 boxes (both 3d): a ULN-2 and a 2882. I don't currently have a way to connect my MacBook to the ULN-2 via MH Link (ie. Ethernet cable) so it's connected via USB-C. I did connect the ULN-2 to the 2882 using an ethernet cable.

When I opened the MIOConsole, I can only see the ULN-2 and not the 2882 (I expected this in the DAW software but not the MIOConsole). Clock adjustments on the ULN-2 do not change anything on the 2882 either. Does this connectivity scenario only work with MHLInk (from the computer to ULN-2)? I couldn't see anything in the documentation calling this out.

I also have a Persons Digimax FS that I connected to the ULN-2 via ADAT to have some extra inputs - Is this type of connection supported by the ULN-2?

Thanks in advance!


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Ableton
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ULN-2 3d
2882 3d

Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87847 is a reply to message #87846] Sun, 03 January 2021 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bj is currently offline  bj
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You will need to connect to the computer via ethernet to allow MIOConsole3d to control both boxes. You can still use USB for audio transport if you like.

You can use a USB to Gigabit Ethernet adapter to make the connection, or a TB3 dock with Gigabit ethernet.
Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87848 is a reply to message #87847] Sun, 03 January 2021 00:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This limitation is described on pg 21-22 of the manual.
Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87852 is a reply to message #87848] Sun, 03 January 2021 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay, I do have access to a TB3 dock with ethernet, I just need to get the appropriate connector for my MB (only thunderbolt 2 and USB) - I'll give that a try.
Thanks very much for confirming!


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Ableton
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ULN-2 3d
2882 3d

Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87854 is a reply to message #87852] Sun, 03 January 2021 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bj is currently offline  bj
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Oh - if you are on TB2 computer, the best option is the Apple TB -> GigE adapter:

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD463LL/A/thunderbolt-to- gigabit-ethernet-adapter

or a TB2 dock (no need to use a TB3 dock)
Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87856 is a reply to message #87854] Sun, 03 January 2021 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had to get an Apple TB2 to TB3 adapter and it appears that everything is working (ports, second monitor and ethernet). I can see the boxes in the MIOConsole and control them. Everything looks good but now I can get sound output. My software shows a signal LED but the MIOConsole shows nothing and the monitors are silent. I have everything set to MHLink network ... which I believe is correct. If I have control and visibility, it should be good, correct? OR is this a limitation on my MacBook having to use the TB3 dock?


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ULN-2 3d
2882 3d

Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87857 is a reply to message #87856] Sun, 03 January 2021 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DO you still have the USB connected? Which audio device are you using in your host (Pro Tools I surmise)?
Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87858 is a reply to message #87857] Sun, 03 January 2021 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, I disconnected the USB C to the ULN-2 and I'm trying to get a sound out of Reason. Sound works (from Reason) if I switch to 'Built In' but not via the MHLink option. Connecting the USB C WITH the Ethernet forces the 2882 offline and does not resolve the 'no sound' issue (I think this is consistent with the documentation). The main host is Studio One Pro. It doesn't appear that I can post screenshots ...



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Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87860 is a reply to message #87858] Sun, 03 January 2021 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nozzles is currently offline  nozzles
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As the documentation is not clear - does the Ethernet cable (alone) via MHLink Audio handle the audio or is just for the control layout?

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Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87861 is a reply to message #87860] Mon, 04 January 2021 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bj is currently offline  bj
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Yes. MHLink with the MHLink driver will handle the audio. You can use USB as well via SCP, but you need to set MIO Console to not use the USB in this case, otherwise things get confused.

So, you have meters in your DAW, and the DAW has MHLink selected as the audio device, but you are not seeing any meters in MIOConsole3d for the host channel(s)?

Maybe it would be best to open a support ticket at https://mhsecure.com/support so our support team can help you get the routing sorted.
Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87866 is a reply to message #87861] Mon, 04 January 2021 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks bj, I've done that so we'll see what they can come up with. Your synopsis is correct though!
I'll update the thread once I hear back.
Thanks again!


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2882 3d

Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87868 is a reply to message #87866] Mon, 04 January 2021 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nozzles is currently offline  nozzles
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So support initially suspected it was the TB3 Dock, but the issue persisted when bypassed by using an Apple Ethernet adapter. Finally I've narrowed it down to the ULN2. The 2882 works fine via MHLink Audio.
So it would appear that I either just use the ULN2 via USB or not at all.


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icon12.gif  Re: USB C connect to ULN-2 3d [message #87872 is a reply to message #87868] Tue, 05 January 2021 13:44 Go to previous message
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Thankfully this is now resolved and it was not a hardware issue. Support directed me to clear the prefs etc. for the MIOConsole and it now works perfectly! The console was working with the 2882 so I naturally thought it wasn't the software, but was incorrect.
Thanks for you direction with this, bj 😊


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