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MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #85903] Fri, 01 November 2013 06:43 Go to next message
pbaudinat is currently offline  pbaudinat
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I already have an ADAT preamp and I want to add another MH 2882 and another ADAT preamp to get 32 tracks .
Is it possible ?
Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86210 is a reply to message #85903] Mon, 29 June 2015 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pbaudinat is currently offline  pbaudinat
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Will anybody simply say YES or NO ?
Otherwise I'll get an RME "all in one" 30 tracks recording card !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86212 is a reply to message #86210] Mon, 29 June 2015 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bj is currently offline  bj
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Sorry, did not see your original post.

Yes; it is possible and works fine.

If you want more details, let us know.
Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86214 is a reply to message #86212] Mon, 29 June 2015 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you BJ .
Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86252 is a reply to message #86214] Sun, 13 September 2015 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm inquiring about same thing.
My actual setup is:
- MOTU 828 MK3 HYBRID (head interface)
- PRESONUS DIGIMAX FS (8 chanel pre+converters with ADAT)
- ANALOG DESK 24 channel inline

I want change my motu 828mk3 with ULN-2 2d extended.
I need to send 24 channels from protools to the desk.

I need to add 2 x 2882 interfaces?


I suppose the chain would be:

ULN2 --> Firewire + BNC clock --> 2882
ULN2 out --> 8ch ADAT --> Digimax
2882 out --> 8ch ADAT --> another digimax (or similar like octopre)

anyone can suggest me a best setup?

My goal is to have 24 channel from Pro Tools to analog desk with best quality as possible.
Usually I record Bass DI, Gtr DI, 2 stereo key (4 line channels), 3 mic pre for brass.
I don't need more than 8 input simultaneously!

Thanks in advance

[Updated on: Sun, 13 September 2015 16:13]

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Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86253 is a reply to message #86252] Mon, 14 September 2015 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you need as many as 24 physical outputs you would need something like 3 2882s or 2 2882s with an 8 channel D/A taking ADAT input from one of the 2882s. A ULN-2 can also be used to pass 8 channels via ADAT to another box, but it's own physical channel count is lower.

In Pro Tools, you would use an aggregate device of two of the 2882s. The first one would receive 16 channels from Pro Tools, passing 8 via analog and 8 via ADAT (which go to the third box and pass to its outputs). The second 2882 in the aggregate would receive the remaining 8 channels from Pro Tools and pass them to its analog outputs.

More here on aggregate devices: http://www.mhsecure.com/faq/index.php?action=artikel&cat =1&id=95



Jon Stern
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Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86254 is a reply to message #86253] Mon, 14 September 2015 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matthew Rice is currently offline  Matthew Rice
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Hey Jon, many thanks for the quick reply! Smile

I would start to buy the ULN-2 because I think is the right device for me.
I don't need more preamps but in the future would be great to have many analog outputs to mix on the desk.

There are other ways to send 24 channels from PT to the desk?

Could I connect ULN-2 (head device) with a 2882 (second device "slave") through firewire and send :
- 8 ADAT of the ULN >> to a DA converter (presonus digimax) >> to desk
- 8 ADAT of the 2882 >> to another DA converter (octopre or similar) >> to desk
- 8 analog of the 2882 >> to desk

There are errors in my reasoning?
Maybe I need to get into Metric Halo mentality to know better how to use firewire bus and multiple devices.
ULN-2 connected to a 2882 through firewire allows me to use 2 DSP system at the same time?

Thanks
M.
Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86255 is a reply to message #86254] Mon, 14 September 2015 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Using the ULN-2 to pass 8 channels to an external D/A over ADAT in conjunction with a 2882 doing 16 more channels would work equally well.

Quote:
ULN-2 connected to a 2882 through firewire allows me to use 2 DSP system at the same time?


The firewire connection allows multiple boxes to connect to the computer and appear in MIO Console. In MIO Console, each box requires its own bus to be configured. The DSP resources run independently on each box, and can be used simultaneously on both boxes for any channels present on each box. If one box has the full +DSP license, the other boxes connected to the system are automatically licensed as well.


Jon Stern
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Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86256 is a reply to message #86255] Mon, 14 September 2015 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matthew Rice is currently offline  Matthew Rice
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If I understand well, to have total of 24 analog outs to desk, my chain will be:

MAC
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|fw
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ULN2 --> 8 adat to DA converter A --> 8 analog to desk
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|fw
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2882 --> 8 adat to DA converter B --> 8 analog to desk
--> 8 analog to desk



I will find on my MIO CONSOLE 2 devices (ULN2+2882) and I will route all outputs to the desk.

Then about sync:

ULN2 --> BNC --> 2882 --> BNC --> DA converters


Do you think this setup will work fine or it's a bit messy?
• 1 x ULN
• 1 x 2882
• 2 x DA converters (like digimax or octopre)
--> if I use 1 x ferrofish 16ch (8 adat from ULN2 + 8 adat from 2882) could give any problems of sync or something?

[Updated on: Mon, 14 September 2015 18:07]

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Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86258 is a reply to message #86256] Tue, 15 September 2015 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All that you mentioned would lend to a workable setup. The last piece is to configure an aggregate device between the ULN-2 and 2882. Feel free to contact us at support if you need additional help with this or routing in MIO Console.

Jon Stern
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Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86470 is a reply to message #86258] Sun, 11 December 2016 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matthew Rice is currently offline  Matthew Rice
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Hey Jon.
I just bought my second MH interface (a great 2882) but I have some problems to work properly Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad

At the moment my setup is:
- ULN-2 (master clock) connected to nearfield monitors (KRK)
- 2882 (slave clock)
- analog desk
- Protools 10

My goal is:
MIX 10 CHANNELS ON SOUNDCRAFT K3 CONSOLE AND USE DSP POWER (MH plugins), THEN RECORD MY BOUNCE INTO ProTools (through MH card)

I'm using ADAT optical cables to sync and tranfer information between ULN2 and 2882 (I will buy BNC + AES/EBU cables later!).


This is what I did:

ULN2 --> firewire cable --> MACMINI
ULN2 --> firewire cable --> 2882
Maybe it's better to use a firewire active switch ?

ULN2 ADAT OUT --> 2882 ADAT IN
ULN2 ADAT IN --> 2882 ADAT OUT

2882 ANALOG OUT 1-8 --> Soundcraft K3 INPUTS 1-8
ULN2 ANALOG OUT 1-2 --> Soundcraft K3 INPUTS 9-10

CONSOLE MASTER OUT L-R --> 2882 ANALOG INPUTS 1-2 (for bounce = 2TRACK IN)

ULN2 clock is INTERNAL (Locked)
2882 clock is ADAT 44.1/48 (Unlocked flashing ??? why ??)

I CREATE AN AGGREGATE CALLED (ULN2+2882) on AUDIO/MIDI SETUP (MAC OSX 10.8.5)
Maybe I need to check DRIFT CORRECTION ??

This is more or less what I've done for now.
I tried to receive and send signal but with no luck Crying or Very Sad

Which is the best configuration into MIO console to route this kind of signals ??
Could I work properly with n.2 ADAT cables or it's better to buy BNC+AES/EBU and forgot ADAT cables ?
I miss something in my cascade?

Please gimme your opinion.
Thanks for your time
Respectfully
Matthew
Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86471 is a reply to message #86470] Mon, 12 December 2016 01:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pbaudinat is currently offline  pbaudinat
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Why do you ask that in my post ?
It's easy to make your own topic .

Forget about the ADAT cable for sync , use wordclock (only one BNC cable ) and keep your ADAT cables for audio transfer (ADAT pre's , toslink FX, etc... ) .

Concerning your goal, I wonder why you don't mix and bounce directly in your MIO's !
Using a Soundcraft K3 this way will make an awful conversion chain : A->D->A->D .
1. If it's a mixing reason, you got incredible plugin suite in the DSP.
2.If it's a "physical" reason, it's very easy to use USB SURFACE CONTROLS like Korg Nanokontrol (x4) .

[Updated on: Mon, 12 December 2016 01:43]

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Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86472 is a reply to message #86470] Tue, 13 December 2016 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Matthew,

As was suggested, if you are not getting lock over ADAT, try a WC or AES connection.

Drift Correction should remain unchecked for all MIOs in an aggregate device.

Best regards,



Jon Stern
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Re: MH 2882+ MH 2882 on FIREWIRE chain = 32 inputs ? [message #86529 is a reply to message #86472] Mon, 08 May 2017 01:46 Go to previous message
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